Interfaith dialogue

To a Christian who denies the prospect of global unity of faith in One God

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Christian Wright Look Ishmael Abraham , I don’t think the Qu’ran is just all bad nonsense. If there was nothing good in it, then i don’t think anyone would find it persuasive. Islamic culture also has many beautiful aspects as well.
But I think there are also many awful and ugly aspects in the Qu’ran and Muslim history. I detest these and see their consequences in the present day. You can disagree with me about that, which is fine. But I am not convinced that the Qu’ran is from God, the arguments you may try to send me won’t persuade me to become a Muslim. There isn’t any scenario where the Qu’ran will unite you and me (let alone the whole world!).
I also think Dawkins is a snob and his remarks about porn are stupid. There are people who (for non religious reasons!) see pornography as addictive and exploitative. But you know what? Dawkins has said TONS of things equally rude about Christianity and the Bible. No one banned him from speaking at a university then. The difference is that Leftists (who by the way are the most hypocritically anti-Islamic people in the world in terms of VALUES) give Muslim feelings unequal protection. Christians have been subject to “abusive speech” (some of it good argument, some bad argument, some just vulgar jokes) for decades. But if your belief is true, it withstand all of that. If everyone believed Islam (or Christianity, I won’t exempt my own background) we would NEED a Dawkins to tell us we were wrong. How else would we know if our beliefs were true or false, if we never heard anything else to compare it to?
You say the Qu’ran preached “freedom of religion”? I won’t get into the question of interpretation. But if your idea of freedom of religion is “You can think what you want privately and skip prayers, just don’t say anything that offends Muhammad’s honor or breaks his God-given rules”…that’s not freedom! Instead of a cage, it’s a prison yard that you can walk around in. Liberty of thought means *nothing* is off the table. This one thing America gets right (despite the 1,000s of things it’s gotten wrong in the Middle East). You can burn an American flag, offend America’s honor, and the courts say that’s free speech. I think that’s right, because NO ONE is above criticism. Neither is any religion. Jimmi Ununger Ishmael sounds like hitchens started the iraq war Jimmi Ununger What does ishmael define as traditional islamic culture? Jules B Dubs Ishmael Abraham you had my attention UNTIL I read the word Zionist. Jules B Dubs Ishmael Abraham why are you even on here if you think ex Muslims are xenophobic? Look, I’m a Christian (you might call me a Zionist. Idk. That seems to be the latest buzzword of hate for anyone who is judeo-christian) and I happen to agree with some of Dawkins views. Other views I don’t. I know why I follow Jesus. Because he was a pacifist who taught about love and forgiveness. Others have twisted his message. Can we say the same for Mohammed? I don’t think so. Jules B Dubs Christian Wright nailed it.
Ishmael Abraham Christian Wright I think the best argument for you is Quran 5:82 which says true Christians are best friends of Muslims. There are contemporary Christian theologians who are open-minded to see how Islam resonates with early biblical Christianity more than modern heterodox Christianity. The examples are Thomas Mcelwain, Ian Mevorach and Kirby Hopper. Sufis saints understood that dialectic alone no matter how polite it may be is not sufficient for people to overcome egoism and hard-heartedness rather it requires prayers like tahajjud and divine grace. Islam in the Bible : Professor Thomas McElwain : Free Download &…
https://archive.org/details/IslamIn… Ishmael Abraham I think blasphemy laws predate the final manifestation of Islam. For example, Jews tried to stone Jesus peace be upon him for blasphemy, so blasphemy laws have been misused but they exist to encourage serious and respectful discussion. For example, I disagree with trinity but a Muslim will never blaspheme the three holy persons of the Creator, the Holy Spirit and the Messiah. We have sufficient emotional intelligence to disagree without verbal abuse unlike both Zionist Christians and militant atheists. The scholars of sacred law in Islam in stated that if a Christian says I do not accept the Ishmaelite Messenger of God(p) it does not constitute blasphemy because it is part of his identity. Ishmael Abraham Jules, There are ultra-orthodox Jews like Neturei Karta like are anti-Zionist and can see that Israel is a secular state that legalizes unholy gay prides and other secular greco-roman ideas. Jews even led a Maccabees revolt against Greek culture and Jewish martyrs sacrificed their lives against pagan secularism. Ishmael Abraham Jesus peace be upon him followed Torah which teaches hating evil so unconditional love is the reason evil is triumphing in the world. We can hate the evil and be tolerant towards evil-doers at the same time. Psalm 97:10 Let those who love the LORD hate evil. Proverbs 8:13 To fear the LORD is to hate evil; Ishmael Abraham Jimmi, there are two types of traditions. Polytheistic tradition which contradicts Scripture and monotheistic tradition which resonates with Scripture. We see trinity as a polytheistic tradition which contradicts Scripture. In Islam, Sunnah/Prophetic praxis and Ahlulbayt/Prophetic family represents the holy tradition. If something from tradition violates Quranic Scripture it is null and void.

How an authentic unitarian paradigm can break ground in Cult Studies to offer tools of religious de-radicalization

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ISHMAEL ABRAHAM·THURSDAY, 15 SEPTEMBER 2016

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To Natacha Tormey a victim of western sex cult: Sociologists classify David Berg as having charismatic authority, but western Scripture apparently lacks intellectual tools to challenge such authority due to history of saint-worship and deification of Christ peace be upon him . For example, a old woman challenged the charismatic authority of the second caliph of Islam on the issue of austerity in dowry, and he acknowledged that she knew Quran more than him. Even in the most revered personality of the divine Ishmaelite Messenger(p), Scripture emphasizes that he is not divine and can sometimes forget or in fact Scripture mentions that the Messenger(p) should have given more attention to truth seeking under-privileged than truth-indifferent elites.
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Sister Natacha is accurate when she says that one is more at risk when one feels one is safe which echoes Quran that fitna or temptation which attracts you into doing something unethical is more harmful than physical harm. Cults or heresies are called fitna in Islamic heresiology

A food of thought to Times of Israel for progress in the mission of first Ishmaelite Nobel prize winner 

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ISHMAEL ABRAHAM·MONDAY, 29 AUGUST 2016

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He talked about rights of Palestinians while receiving Wolf prize. He also talked about how Islamic civilization brought humanity out of dark ages. Reformation preceded Enlightenment and since he was no atheist so a monotheistic reformation is required to produce his vision of monotheistic enlightenment. He also thought positively about Arab Spring which is a movement of freedom and freedom includes anticolonialism. Sola Scriptura orthodox Jews should become more vocal in terms of science and politics in order to make modern Zionism more receptive to sacred texts of Tafsir, Hadith and Ahlulbayt which we consider the universal Ark of Salvation in the global flood and firestorm of promiscuity, materialism and bloodshed.

Islamic epistemology, Hindu pro-traditionalism/pantheism and western philosophy

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ISHMAEL ABRAHAM·FRIDAY, 26 AUGUST 2016

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Ron William

· “WHAT IS TRUTH?” Truth, like knowledge, is surprisingly difficult to define. We seem to rely on it almost every moment of every day and it’s very “close” to us. Yet it’s difficult to define because as soon as you think you have it pinned down, some case or counterexample immediately shows deficiencies. Ironically, every definition of truth that philosophers have developed falls prey to the question, “Is it true?”Simply, we can define truth as: a statement about the way the world actually is. We’ll look at various theories below that philosophers have considered but that’s an adequate rough-and-ready definition to get us started. Coming up with a definition of truth falls under the discipline of epistemology or the study of knowledge though some philosophers categorize it as a study in metaphysics–the study of what is real.
 Siva Chetty
Ron,,you are digging deep into Hinduism…..The truth is Maya…..
Saroj Hkg
maya is the “ever changing nature of universe and the physical world and its sutiations”..thus,”illusion”…he fact that physical/materialistic world is maya is a truth.
 Ishmael Abraham
The word used in Holy Hadith for maya is batil(falsehood). The Prophet (ﷺ) said, “The truest poetic verse ever said by a poet, is: Indeed! Everything except Allah, is batil (perishable) “
http://sunnah.com/bukhari/81/78
So whatever is not both pre-eternal and does not have eternal future without death and annihilation is the real Truth or Al-Haqq. Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) said: The truest word uttered by a poet is this verse of Labid: “Behold! apart from Allah everything is vain,” and Umayya b. Abu Salt was almost a Muslim.
http://sunnah.com/muslim/41/4
Rene Guenon a Sufi convert to Islam has shown how pro-traditionalism of Islam and Hinduism can work together against Godless modernity.
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Ibn Arabi has explored this in such depth that orthodox scholars accuse him of degenerating into idolatrous hindu pantheism which leads to Hell fire according to 4:116 48:13 3:85 25:1. This shows that every human being has a moral/spiritual obligation to seek and acknowledge truths and the Truth.
Leon Garcia
The Sankhya Philosophy system is designed to afford understanding of the real Truth. What is that real truth? The real truth is knowledge of how to get out of the material body, which is the source of all trouble. Lord Kapila’s incarnation, or descent, is especially meant for this purpose. HARE KRSNA, HARE KRSNA, KRSNA KRSNA, HARE HARE, HARE RAMA, HARE RAMA, RAMA RAMA, HARE HARE,
Ishmael Abraham
Material body can become trouble free if its rights are fulfilled in halal ways. And, halal and haram is determined by revelation. Buddhist and Hindu negation of material body leads to practical hypocrisy because being an absolute monk is called schizophrenia according to modern standards. So, Islamic paradigm is the ideal balance between body and spirit.

Do I desperately seek attention and approval of colonizing whites due to a colonized mind?

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ISHMAEL ABRAHAM·MONDAY, 22 AUGUST 2016

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Do I desperately seek attention and approval of whites?
Hussain Murtaza He comes from Pakistan, my home country. So I can very well relate to this psychology of craving for the white man’s attention. The white men colonized us for a hundred years and we still haven’t been to move past that psychology. You can’t even imagine how the white man is considered to be the benchmark of all excellence, in our part of the world. This has nothing to do with racism, you would have understood this if you had this context in mind
Jerry Sexton Well I will say this about him. I respect him even if I don’t believe in a deity. His command of the English language is most impressive. He loves debate, as do I. He tolerates insults very well, stays friends with Christians and atheists even when they tell him in not so friendly ways that his views are wrong. If there were anything that I would change about him, it would be his view about secular government. 🙂
Ishmael Abraham Islam offered humanity what Antichrist secularism offers today without its seductively destructive potential for mass apostasy.
Ishmael Abraham The word for evangelism in Islam is dawah or calling humanity towards Allah their Creator. So, it is about making humanity attentive to their Origin. I seek attention of everyone who disagrees with Quran and Sunnah. So, I befriend even takfiri, cursing and abusive Shia extremists who can be Arabs, Persians or Indians so that does not depend upon race.
Jerry, your evangelism was not Scripturally intelligent because Jesus peace be upon him clearly said: I am sent ONLY to the lost sheep of house of Israel, while Ishmaelite Prophet Muhammad blessings and peace be upon him was sent for all mankind (Quran 7:158 48:13 3:85 25:1)

Why do Prophets do istighfar if they are sinless?

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ISHMAEL ABRAHAM·SUNDAY, 14 AUGUST 2016

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Those prayers are meant to be imitated by Muslims because he is our uswah hasanah(spiritual role model). Also, since he was married, when he went to his wives, he felt that in those moments of intimacy he was closer to earth than heaven so he sought forgiveness for that. Also, there are other mundane matters like when one is in toilet that one cannot mention God’s name although we pray before entering the toilet to seek Allah’s protection against spiritual and physical impurities. We also pray for Allah’s protection against Satan before intimacy who can influence the soul of future child. We also remember Allah while being in the markets which are away from God.